Anyway both got to 110 at around 50h played. I messed up with my Pal by going to Legion once I hit 100 instead of finishing treasures and bonuses in WoD. All in all, if I picked the best zones and was only trying to level as fast as I could, I would probably could have done it in roughly 40h. Note that it would have a been A LOT faster with a Monk as both Ret and Rogues don't really have a decent AoE until 40+ (45 for Ret and 63 for Rogue I believe). The daily also helps a lot. I know that leveling my Monk before the pre-patch was insanely fast. Might be slower with the changes to FoF, however.
Nov 6 Pet battle advice and leveling class Hi all. Been doing pet battling so far. I like it a lot. But I am not getting very much experience for my class Does the experience get better later on? I am a level 2 orc shaman with about 9 level 3 pets. I will keep leveling my pets but the experience feels very bad for my shaman levels. Any pet battle advice is welcome. Thanks. Also I have a few heirlooms and some gold.Goldshaman4 Nov 6
For those interested in more details on spending wisely, and generating good cashflow, we cover a number of topics in more detail. Please note that this guide represents the accumulated wisdom of many people. You don't necessarily have to do all of these things--there is no one "right" way to make and manage money. However, these pointers will give you ideas on how to establish a firm financial foundation for your character.
Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion’s crusade—but even as the world’s wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As this age-old conflict reignites, join your allies and champion your faction’s cause—Azeroth’s future will be forged in the fires of war.

SSC has been known for it's abundance of pet drops, which is why this farming spot exists.  It can only be done once a week by each of your characters, so make sure to hit it if you can.  Generally you'll want to kill all the bosses for a chance at their rare pets.  Everytime I go, I have the luck of getting one, in the video I actially got the Tideskipper to drop, and a video I done on the spot before that, I got the tainted waveling.  So yeah. It's a pretty awesome spot with high rewards and also some world drops.  I was able to snag a will of edward the odd as well, totalling a nasty 35,000g.  The most important part is that you kill the bosses, the pet drops do sell, and they are very easy to get.  Well worth the time invested.


An alt (low level or no) in a capital city is an effective way to not only cheaply increase your available bank space, but to be a simple savings and auctioneer account. This character can serve as your bank, an auctioneer, bag-space creator and a time saver. Get one. (There may or may not be Item Recovery issues with characters below level 10, in cases where one's account is hacked.)
-Island Expeditions- Island expeditions was one of the new features I was looking forward to but Blizzard no longer makes games that are ready when they are ready but rather makes games ready when the deadline comes. Thus, many of the new features are completely stripped down from what was expected and it's literally just a small scenario you enter with two other players to continue to grind out your Azerite neck piece.

Beyond that the constant amounts of RNG on top of RNG has made the game not only frustrating but unfun and unrewarding. It is clear with the current game design decisions the goal of bfa was not to create an exciting experience and to refresh world pvp and faction pride, but to test the player base and see how long subscriptions could be pushed with the least amount of content. Class specific raid gear, tier sets, removal of any sort permanent player progression and a complete draining of class skills has left BFA with less and forced players to grind more only with the knowledge that like Legion all your work at the end of the day will be worth nothing due to end game catch up mechanics and removal of the azerite necklace at the end of the expansion.


Be warned that players will occasionally list items in the Auction House that are sold by vendors. This typically applies to limited sale quantity items or items in remote, harder to reach locations. Items from Outland that advance certain skills (such as books for training Cooking or First Aid past a skill of 300) are typical. These items are notoriously listed for 2, 3, or even 10 times their vendor purchase-able price. Using an add-on such as Auctioneer Advanced can forewarn you of such a tactic. You should ONLY buy such items if your server is so full and busy that you simply are unable to acquire the item on your own. Otherwise, wait for the vendor to re-stock (usually takes about 20 minutes to 1 hour depending upon the vendor). You'll save yourself a considerable amount of money. See Buying Items from Vendors for Resale below for more on this.

That’s because armor of higher level has higher Azerite power requirements than lower level armor. That means a shiny new piece of Epic gear will have better stats but, unless you’ve been diligent about your Azerite power grind, won’t have as many traits unlocked. You lose options as you earn better gear. Eventually, you’ll grind out enough Azerite to earn those traits back, but you’re left with limited customization until then.
Although you usually don't want to buy items to sell from vendor, some items can be sold for much more than you pay for them from the vendor. There are a few reasons people will buy a vendor item for a higher cost at the AH. They vendor may be hard to get to, the recipe only sells in limited stock, or the buyer simply may not know where the item is from.
Instead, go to Timeless Isle and take the portal to Gorgrond. From there, fly to your respective faction starting zone(Frostfire Ridge or SMV), go to your garrison, and do the quests to unlock your garrison(A short quest chain beginning down near the water where you'd otherwise start after the Dark Portal scenario). For now DO NOT collect any more treasures than absolutely needed to buy 2 experience potions! Treasures continue to be worth superior exp/h all the way to level 104!!! You don't want to begin collecting them until lvl 100 or later.
Guilds are perhaps one the most effective ways of progressing your character, and in turn, making money. Most 'high-end' guilds have a guild bank where members donate items for other members. This may range from potions, reagents, and craftable plans. Usually you will have to donate to a guild bank in order to receive items as well as stay active in your guild, but receiving potions that will aid your progression and craftable plans allowing you to profit off selling the products will benefit you in the long run. Also, donating to your guild bank may mean donating something you cannot use in turn receiving something you can use. Sometimes, additional services such as VoIP servers are provided and play a key role especially in end-game content; communication is paramount to a the success of an efficient group. Efficiency results in receiving gear faster, running more frequently in a shorter amount of time, and in turn making more money from runs. In a well put together guild, members become a close knit community including financial and questing support, which are among the most profitable benefits. If you have not considered joining a guild as part of your strategy moving through the game, you may wish to strongly reconsider.
Nov 9 Maximizing Movement Speed in 8.0 So I find it difficult to find solid sources of current content ways of maximizing movement speed on a character. I'm hoping some of you can help me figure it out. In a way to maximize movement, I don't know if Blizzard has a hard or soft cap on movement speed for a character. I want to use a 110 since it would be reliable in farming most older content and materials. Sephuz Secret = 3% Passive w/ 15% whenever you use a CC effect. Viridium gems = 3% movement speed boost, but can they stack? Longstrider = A 110 still has access to limited azerite gear so you can get another 3% here I'm guessing with scaling helping you get that secondary bonus easier. Using the Leather Legendary BoE boots you get 5% movement speed per enemy killed for 1 minute. Stacking up to 5 times you can get 25% there. What else can you use? That's 34% movement passive by the looks of it. According to the toon you use that can go up and down according to character. Maybe some of the experts on the topic can help break down how to maximize speed.Jaszunn0 Nov 9
Beyond that the constant amounts of RNG on top of RNG has made the game not only frustrating but unfun and unrewarding. It is clear with the current game design decisions the goal of bfa was not to create an exciting experience and to refresh world pvp and faction pride, but to test the player base and see how long subscriptions could be pushed with the least amount of content. Class specific raid gear, tier sets, removal of any sort permanent player progression and a complete draining of class skills has left BFA with less and forced players to grind more only with the knowledge that like Legion all your work at the end of the day will be worth nothing due to end game catch up mechanics and removal of the azerite necklace at the end of the expansion. 

Players’ relationships with the NPCs around them have been hit-and-miss over the years. One of the original issues with Thrall, the Horde’s original Warchief, is that players began to refer to him as “green Jesus,” because of how infinitely powerful and infallible he was. But he’s been gone since the Warlord of Draenor expansion, and with the death of Varian Wrynn and Vol’Jin at the start of Legion, the old guard hasn’t been there to guide players the same way as it used to be.
Came back to this game a few days ago after quitting during 7.0. Decided to go do some transmog farming as I have no gold, only to find that trash mob loot has been severely reduced. Im talking a full uldaman run with literally only 2 greens from the end chest (which is guaranteed to have greens.) What the fuck is going on here? Also why are bosses dropping the same item so often? Also tried RFK and DM to find the same low drop rates. Any insight is appreciated.
101+ At this point you'll start taking a penalty on quest/bonus objective experience for every level past 100. Treasures, however, remain worth their full value all the way through level 105, at which point they'll be worth something like 15% less, and then another 15% more when you ding 106. I recommend that you stop questing/gathering entirely, and collect all the treasures you can stomach, only avoiding any annoying to reach ones inside caves or behind elites/rares(where scaling does bizarro things).
-Azerite Gear- This has been the worst experience for many players as it was advertised as offering the player many options for customizing their character but all players do is Google "Icy veins (Spec/Class) azerite ranks" and select the best one. This is expected and really only gives players the illusion of choice as they're always going to pick the best one. This could have been done far better by not offering necessarily just damage increases in traits but offering some of the Legion Legendary item effects in Azerite slots. You know, certain Azerite traits would be better for PvP, some for raiding, some for 5 mans, some for soloing old content, etc. The other problem with Azerite gear is that it's locked based on you grinding an endless amount of Azerite for your neck piece (basically the stuff that increases the level of your neck piece). So when you get an item that should be an upgrade, it really isn't because you don't have all the traits unlocked. This complaint about how horrible this system is could go on forever, but I'll just leave it at that, horrible.
8.1 unlocked a new level up state for epic champions that gives them 2 equipment slots, so I thought to reconsider which equipment should my BFA champions have in order to maximize gains. I saw a lot of negativity in other post about champion equipment (https://old.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/ad6uzb/is_champion_equipment_worth_it/). IMO, the mission table has the best effort/reward ratio in the game, as in you just click things and some time later you get results.
Battle Standard of Coordination: This item gives you 15% bonus XP if you stay within 100 yards, with a 10-minute cooldown. Can be useful if you are grinding in an area or when completing a dungeon. If you plant the banner at the last boss of a random dungeon you will get 15% extra from the bonus XP as well as that XP is awarded when killing the last boss. You need to be friendly with your guild to get this. The easiest way to get it on a new alt, is to buy a Renowned Guild Tabard with you main and send it to your new alt. Now you need to join a guild with the “A Daily Routine” achievement completed. So open the guild finder, if you’re not already part of a guild, and look for a guild with a lot of members since they are more likely to have the achievement, and ask to join. Then buy the Battle Standard of Coordination.
As of Patch 2.3, if you get a message "Interface action failed because of an AddOn", this means that an AddOn interfered with the Blizzard UI in some way. To diagnose this, enter the following into chat "/console taintLog 1" and restart the game and try to reproduce it. If you reproduce it, you can quit the game and search through the file Logs\taint.log for the word "blocked" and mail the log to the author of the AddOn listed there. Once you have done this you can turn off logging by entering the following into chat "/console taintLog 0"
The bones of Mythic+ are fairly simple, but it’s that simplicity that makes it Battle for Azeroth’s most rewarding mode. It’s fun, generally only takes about 40 minutes per dungeon and allows small groups of players to push themselves exactly as hard as they’d like. Battle for Azeroth’s dungeons are extremely well-designed and consistently entertaining, even after doing some of them 20-plus times, which makes the challenge of Mythic+ a great way to keep people playing.

EXCEPTION: If you are leveling trade skills while advancing, review the materials requirements of every recipe, pattern, plan, or formula that are planning on purchasing from a trainer. For example, some of the shirt patterns for tailors use very few materials and thus yield a more efficient manner of leveling the trade skill. Check profession leveling guides here on the wiki, ask a guild-mate or friend, or check out information on other web sites to help in this area. A little pre-planning and fore-thought can save you huge investment costs in the long run.
Battle of Dazar'alor Raid Preview & Schedule Battle of Dazar'alor is the second raid of the expansion that opens on January 22. It revolves around the Alliance vs. Horde conflict and comes with a unique flashback mechanic, where players get transformed into the opposing faction (including racials) to witness a portion of the raid from the other faction's perspective. World of Warcraft WoW Jan 03, 2019 at 19:42 by Stan 7 comments
The most important part of saving is to never buy equipment unless you're positive that it will increase your earning potential, or significantly speed your character's leveling progress. While it is true that gear is important (particularly for melee combat characters), it is also true that an overemphasis on having great gear before maximum level is dumb. Who cares if you're wearing a green sword at level 43? If you're advancing well, you aren't going to be level 43 for very long anyway. The only gear that currently "counts" is max level gear.

Azeroth paid a terrible price to end the apocalyptic march of the Legion's crusade—but even as the world's wounds are tended, it is the shattered trust between the Alliance and Horde that may prove hardest to mend. As this age-old conflict reignites, join your allies and champion your faction's cause—Azeroth's future will be forged in the fires of war.[8]
With the excitement of becoming Level 120 come a lot of new activities to do. However, it is particularly important to note that you should continue to complete the story mode quests. You will undoubtedly achieve Level 120 before completing your third zone, so be sure to head back and finish the story quests as they are important to unlocking game content as well as pushing your reputation levels even higher. Each zone comes with a lot of side quests that can be ignored at first as you push your item level up, complete emissaries, and do dungeons, but when you have some time, be sure to wrap up all of the quest lines in each zone to maximize your reputation potential. Reputation is the gateway to all things in Battle for Azeroth, so quest away! Be sure to use our Quest Completion Checker tool here at Icy Veins to see if there are any missed quests in any of the zones for you to go back and complete!

Anyway both got to 110 at around 50h played. I messed up with my Pal by going to Legion once I hit 100 instead of finishing treasures and bonuses in WoD. All in all, if I picked the best zones and was only trying to level as fast as I could, I would probably could have done it in roughly 40h. Note that it would have a been A LOT faster with a Monk as both Ret and Rogues don't really have a decent AoE until 40+ (45 for Ret and 63 for Rogue I believe). The daily also helps a lot. I know that leveling my Monk before the pre-patch was insanely fast. Might be slower with the changes to FoF, however.

AH Profits Alchemy AoE Farming Auction House Flipping Auction House Tips Badlands Battle Pets Blackrock Ore Blacksmithing Borean Leather Dark Whelpling Embersilk Cloth Enchanting Engineering Felblight Fishing Garrison Hellfire Peninsula Herbalism Hillsbrad Foothills Icecrown Instance Farming Kun-Lai Summit Leatherworking Linen Cloth Low Level Farming Mining Mote of Harmony Nagrand Northrend Primal Spirit Rare Boss Farming Rugged Leather Silithus Silk Cloth Skinning Sumptuous Fur Tailoring Tanaan Jungle Transmogrification Gear Twilight Highlands Uldum Volatile Air Warlords of Draenor Windwool Cloth
Crusader's Direhorn (Zandalari Troll Paladin Mount) Paladins have been confirmed as a playable race for Zandalari Trolls in Patch 8.1.5 and while the lore surrounding the class is not certain yet, it has something to do with Kimbul, not Rezan. Anyway, the class mount is Crusader's Direhorn, a gold-plated dinosaur. World of Warcraft WoW Yesterday at 13:06 by Stan 11 comments
When buying raw materials from the AH, keep an eye out for bargains. Choose only the cheapest items available to keep costs down. Try scanning the whole section of item listings in the AH to check prices; often the prices for stacks of items in the AH are much cheaper than individual pieces (for example, a single Thorium Bar may be priced at 3 , but a stack of 10 may actually be priced at only 2 per Thorium Bar) — you may spend more to acquire your materials, but you also save more and ensure larger profit in the long run. You can find a lot of terrific bargains this way.
As of Patch 2.3, if you get a message "Interface action failed because of an AddOn", this means that an AddOn interfered with the Blizzard UI in some way. To diagnose this, enter the following into chat "/console taintLog 1" and restart the game and try to reproduce it. If you reproduce it, you can quit the game and search through the file Logs\taint.log for the word "blocked" and mail the log to the author of the AddOn listed there. Once you have done this you can turn off logging by entering the following into chat "/console taintLog 0"
If you bought Legion and have no desire to go through old content, good news! The new expansion comes with a free boost to level 100 for one character. You can buy these boosts from the in-game store whenever you want, but they normally cost $60, so savor this free one. Use it for a class that you are confident you will enjoy. As a fresh level 100 character, you will be able to immediately begin the quest that takes you the Broken Isles, the new region where Legion takes place.
I like to post twice a day, listing all auctions for 12 hours. One of my postings occur when I wake up at around 5:30 AM, and the other occurs when they expire, at around 5:30 PM. This allows me to always have my auctions up, and I am the cheapest for a short period of my server's peak. If you are unable to do this, a 24 hour listing, posted during your server's peak period will do just as well. Following this strategy allows me to keep my input minimal, at about 10-15 minutes per day.
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